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The Gazette News Group presents the Parting Shots podcast. Now here's your host, Ken Shaw. Thank you Scott Gezy, and welcome to the Parting Shots podcast. Available wherever you get your podcast. Subscribe today. Thanks for joining me from the Parting Shots podcast studio in Schenectady, New York for our weekly visit with Union meds head hockey coach Josh Housley. Josh, how's it going? How you doing?
[00:00:32] Speaker A: It's going well. It's my wife's birthday today, so got to be a good day.
[00:00:35] Speaker B: Do you gonna wish her happy birthday here on the show?
[00:00:37] Speaker A: Yeah, Happy birthday, Alison.
[00:00:39] Speaker B: I noticed I was on Facebook so I wished her happy birthday as well. So that's gonna have any special plans after this.
[00:00:46] Speaker A: Both our kids have hockey tonight, so hopefully we cross paths and maybe get some dinner together as a family.
[00:00:53] Speaker B: That's good. So happy birthday Allison. Let's talk about last weekend, a one game weekend for Union. The Garner Charger played in dad Dartmouth in Hanover to Hampshire. Dartmouth is a team that has had Union's number recently and that continued last Friday as the Big Green snapped a 22 tie late in the third period to take a 42 victory, handing Union its third straight ECAC hockey loss. Before we break down the game, Josh, what are your general thoughts?
[00:01:19] Speaker A: I thought it was, you know, similar to a playoff type game. It was, you know, not a lot of space.
You know, I thought of all the games this season, this, this and Miami were probably the two biggest, you know, punches in the gut as far as games that were, you know, right there that we could have had and just didn't get, didn't, didn't get it across the finish line.
[00:01:39] Speaker B: Well, let's start with the news before the game. When I received the line charts an hour before the contest, one thing I noticed was that there was only two goalies listed for Union. Brayden Gillespie and Brendan Holohan. Not listed was Cameron Corpi, which obviously led to speculation as to whether or not he made the trip. And early in the ESPN broadcast, play by play announcer Rob Kennedy said that Korpi was at the morning skate. So what happened?
[00:02:06] Speaker A: Yeah, just, you know, we're doing our typical morning skate and you know, he didn't, he didn't feel great as far as just his body and you know, just kind of a lower body thing. So we, you know, decided not to dress him.
[00:02:19] Speaker B: Was Gillespie going to be the starter all along in that game?
[00:02:21] Speaker A: Yeah, we had made the decision the night before that, Braden was going to start and you know, Cam, you know, was obviously going to be there if we needed him, but unfortunately he wasn't able to go.
[00:02:30] Speaker B: What is Cameron status at the moment?
[00:02:32] Speaker A: It's day to day right now, so it was kind of monitoring it and hopefully he's ready to go for the weekend.
[00:02:38] Speaker B: So we're saying it's a lower body injury then?
[00:02:40] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:02:40] Speaker B: Okay. The first period was uneventful. No goals and no penalties. Dartmouth had an 84 shots on goal advantage. What did you think of that? The team's playing the period.
[00:02:50] Speaker A: I mean, both teams really limited each other's chances. There wasn't a whole lot of quality scoring chances either way.
Again, pretty tight checking game and pretty physical.
[00:02:59] Speaker B: Why was it difficult for Union just not to get more than four shots on goal?
[00:03:03] Speaker A: Well, I thought they had, you know, good sticks and good detail.
You know, we didn't drive enough pucks to the net and I think that was a theme for us the entire night was just not getting enough pucks, you know, driving pucks to the net.
[00:03:16] Speaker B: Well, the second period gets underway and just past the seven minute mark, Nikita Nikora forces a turnover at the Union blue line. He gets the puck to Jack Silverberg and he fires it home to give Dartmouth a one nothing lead. A tough goal to give up.
[00:03:29] Speaker A: Yeah, we, you know, we have possession on the top of the circle offensively and you know, two guys collide into each other and their players right there to pick up the puck and go. And you know, I didn't think we handled the two on one very well. So you can't, you know, leave a guy open like that and you had to keep the puck on just one side of the ice.
[00:03:47] Speaker B: Well, Union gets a power play late in the second period when Nicolin Grable is called for tripping and Union takes advantage as Lucas Buzzio tips a Will Felicio right point shot past Gulley emmitt crotto with 140 left to tie it at one. So a nice play all around.
[00:04:01] Speaker A: Yeah, nice job on the power play. They, you know, got good movement and a good, good shot and a good deflection.
[00:04:08] Speaker B: Well, Union should have been able to build some momentum off that goal as the period was winding down. But instead Dartmouth gets Union running around in its own zone and it pays off for the Big Green as Colin Graywell fires a shot from the slot past Gillespie with 21.5 seconds left to give the Big Green a 21 lead after 2 mid. How tough was to give up that goal? Right after you got the power play to tie it.
[00:04:28] Speaker A: Yeah, it was extremely frustrating. You know, five veteran players and, you know, put some trust in them that they're going to have a good shift and really, you know, respond well and end up, you know, turning a couple pucks over in the neutral zone and then get hemmed in our end. And because we turned those pucks over, now we're tired and, you know, just weren't able to process and sort out and nice shot by them.
[00:04:50] Speaker B: What was the message to the team during the second intermission?
[00:04:52] Speaker A: You know, just regroup.
I did not think the second was a great period from us. I thought it was. I thought Dartmouth was the better team and, you know, we have to respond and I thought, you know, the guys did a nice job of responding in the third.
[00:05:06] Speaker B: The third period gets on the way. And then 232 into the period, it's another redirection goal for the Garner Chargers. Etienne Lessard takes a shot from the right point. Alex Lorenza is in front of the net. He gets a stick on it and puts it past Crotto to tie it at 2e. You have to be feeling good about that after getting that goal early.
[00:05:23] Speaker A: Yeah, guys responded well and, you know, kind of I thought we're carrying the play, you know, as the third went on.
[00:05:30] Speaker B: Does the team practice tipping pucks a lot?
[00:05:32] Speaker A: I mean, it's definitely been something we've been working on.
You know, we want to.
We want to generate from the blue line. So in order to do that, you know, you gotta have traffic and you gotta have good sticks around the net.
[00:05:44] Speaker B: Well, time is winding down and it appears the game is heading to overtime. But with under three minutes left, Nikora forces another turnover in the Union zone. And he sends a pass to Brock Cummings, who is along the left wing. Cummings gets to the left circle and fires a wrist shot off the right post and into the net to give Dartmouth a 32 lead. How tough was that to give that one up that late?
[00:06:03] Speaker A: Yeah, it was extremely, you know, difficult, you know, and again, I thought we were carrying a lot of the play and, you know, things are going the way we wanted them to. And then, you know, just a turnover and a quick attack and, you know, and a quick shot.
[00:06:18] Speaker B: Well, Gillespie has pulled for an extra attacker as Union looks to replicate what it did the week before against rpi. But Nikora seals the game on an empty net goal with 36.3 seconds left. The Big Green wins 42 and extends its winning streak against Union to eight games. Obviously, there had to be a sense of frustration. As you said, the team appeared to play well, but just couldn't get going to get going.
[00:06:39] Speaker A: Yeah, it was by far one of the harder ones to swallow.
Again, we did some things well enough to win, but, you know, there was that second period where I just didn't think we were good enough.
[00:06:53] Speaker B: Only 19 shots on goal in the game. That second time this year that has happened.
What do you got to do? I mean, against these teams like the Dartmouth and Cornell is the other team that held you guys in 19 shots. What do you got to do to, you know, get some more opportunities to get some shots on goal?
[00:07:06] Speaker A: Well, it is difficult against, you know, teams like Dartmouth and Cornell. Like, they're big and they're physical and, you know, we got to be, you know, we got to have second and third efforts, and we just got to make sure that we're, you know, not passing up chances. I thought there were some chances early in the game where we just, you know, you got to throw some pucks to the net to create some chaos. And if you just keep looking for that perfect play, it's. It's going to be hard at times. So, you know, early in the season, I thought we really had a shooting mentality. I thought of late, like, it's been something that we. We have to get back to.
[00:07:38] Speaker B: When Nikora has been a thorn in Union side. I mean, he has had a goal and three assists in the win. In five games against Union, Nikora has two goals and seven assists. Why he has been. Why has he been in so much trouble for Union?
[00:07:50] Speaker A: Well, you know, he's on their second line, and I thought we did a really nice job with their top line, you know, matching and being aware. But, you know, he's just as dynamic as those guys. So at times when you get focused on, you know, Cleaves and Stavrov and McDonald, like, you overlook a guy like Nikora, and that's something that can't happen.
[00:08:12] Speaker B: Well, let's take a break. When we return, we'll Preview this weekend's ECAC hockey games at St. Lawrence and Clarkston. And we'll talk about Union's chances of an ECAC hockey tournament first round. Bye. We'll also answer questions from our listeners. You're listening to the Parting Shots podcast.
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[00:09:49] Speaker B: Welcome back to the podcast. I'm Gailey Gazette Union hockey beat writer Ken shot, joined by UnionMed's head coach Josh Halgey. I just realized, Josh says between the segments here, this is our first podcast of February. Where's the time going?
[00:10:01] Speaker A: It's unbelievable how quick everything goes.
[00:10:03] Speaker B: I know, getting old.
Well, the Union's last three games, it has had just one power play in each of those games. Why hasn't the Union been able to get to generate more power play opportunities?
[00:10:15] Speaker A: Well, I think a little bit is just how the games are being called. But at the same point it's, it's our job to outwork the opposition. And you know, I think that's, you know, a direct correlation for like, you know, how much second and third effort, you know, we're putting forth. And you know, you got to put the other team to the test and that's by driving pucks to net and making it difficult to play against. So I, I mean for us that's been something we've been working on all week, is just taking pucks to the net.
[00:10:41] Speaker B: Yeah. What does a team need to do to generate more power play opportunities?
[00:10:44] Speaker A: Again, like if, if you're even with like drive, drive everything to the net and not be happy on the outside. And I think right now you're seeing us, you know, have a lot of possession on the outside but not enough getting to the net.
[00:10:57] Speaker B: Well, Union is back on the road this weekend as it heads to the north country. The Garner Chargers visit St. Lawrence at 7pm Friday at Appleton Arena. Then it's a 4pm Saturday game at Clarkson inside a Cheal Arena. The last Time you face the Saints. The Garner Chargers won 52 on November 8th at M& T Bank Center. Braden Gillespie made his Union debut that night and made 27 saves. Colby MacArthur scored twice. Parker Lindauer had three assists and Brandon Burr had a goal and two assists. And that game started St. Lawrence on a three month funk. The Saints went 0:14, 2 in the next 16 games.
In 16 games, I should say. And now they are 2:1 and 1 in the last four. They tied and beat Clarkson two weeks ago. After losing to Quinnipiac last Friday, the Saints beat Princeton. Are you expecting to see a much different St. Lawrence team than the one you saw in November?
[00:11:47] Speaker A: Yeah, they've really been, you know, relying on some of their younger players and those players are playing well for them. So in the, in the last four, I think they've been, you know, pretty good in creating a lot more. I mean, they didn't get a lot against Quinnipiac, but they did as the game went and got a lot of shots.
[00:12:04] Speaker B: Yeah, watching at least the first Clarkson matchup, they were just all over Clarkson and just, you know, the rivalry obviously you get up for. But then they obviously matched it the next night by beating him at Appleton.
[00:12:18] Speaker A: Yeah, and they really should have won, you know, game. The first game in regulation, they had it five, three late and you know, a good push by Clarkson that got it to even and then, you know, St. Lawrence won in the shootout.
[00:12:28] Speaker B: How important will it to be? Will it be to start strong and not take St. Lawrence lightly? Lightly, Yeah.
[00:12:34] Speaker A: I mean, we don't have the ability to take anyone lightly right now. We have to, you know, we have to be focused. We have to show up on time and, you know, make sure we have our best.
[00:12:42] Speaker B: Well, Clarkson's up on Saturday. You won your first visit there back to Chile in your first season as head coach of Union in 2020.
But since then, Union has lost the last two visits. What will you have to do to beat Clarkson on its home ice on Saturday?
[00:12:57] Speaker A: You know, a difficult place to play and you know, last time we weren't able to solve Soderwall. He was very good against us. So, you know, we're going to have to make sure, you know, we find the back of the net against him and they're good if you don't take care of the pucks. So again, that'll be a focal point for us.
[00:13:13] Speaker B: And that November 7th game in M and T Bank Center, Union scored the game's first goal, but Clarkson got the next five to win. Five to one. You know, looking Back at that game, what went wrong after taking the one nothing lead.
[00:13:23] Speaker A: I think, you know, for us that was a game we did a lot of good, good things. I think we had 40 shots on net we just weren't able to finish. And then the mistakes we made were, were really big ones. You know, we duplicated on back checks. We lost, lost assignments off of face off. So those would be things we have to focus on.
[00:13:42] Speaker B: Of course the controversial five minute Major Benmuth has both the contact head to the stick in the game misconduct didn't help either.
Missing that hurt as well.
[00:13:52] Speaker A: Yeah, anytime. You know, we don't have Ben. He's a big piece of what we tried to do, so taking him out of our lineup hurts.
[00:13:59] Speaker B: Well, this weekend begins the stretch drive to the ECAC Hockey tournament. Union has eight games remaining. The Garner Chargers are in ninth place right now, a point behind Yale for the final home I slot in the ECAC hockey tournament's first round game. Union is two points behind seventh place Clarkson in the race for a first round bye. Union is 13 points behind fourth place Harvard for the final first round by slot but 24 points are up for grabs over the next four weeks. Do you believe your team has a chance to move up into a top four spot or will the team try to at least hope to lock up a first round home game?
[00:14:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean I haven't done the numbers as far as what we would need to do or even if we'd have a chance. I if we want all eight, majority of the focus is making sure that we're ready to go on Friday against St. Lawrence. We have to get points. We got to start pushing ourselves up the standings and however everything else falls, that'll be determined. But we got to worry about ourselves.
[00:14:58] Speaker B: Well, we always like to take questions from our listeners. Benjamin Monaco McCarthy writes, has there been any emphasis on increasing their off puck movement to create more opportunities? It seems like there was more of that in the early season, but lately it seems like everyone is standing still waiting for the pucket to come to them.
[00:15:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I definitely think that's been something, you know, trying to get into space and attack when you have the opportunity. And you know, I think again we've been, you know, satisfied stopping over pucks and not being, you know, quick on touch. So those are areas we're trying to improve.
[00:15:32] Speaker B: Jake Lewis writes, what's, what is the emphasis or message in the locker room as the regular season nears the end with eight games left before the ECAC tournament?
[00:15:42] Speaker A: I think for us it's been just stacking really good practices, you know, together, and I think that's something we've done. I thought last week we had two of our best, you know, of our four of the season. And now this week we've had, you know, three really good ones. So, you know, feel like we're getting back to where we were, but there's still a lot of work to be done.
[00:16:02] Speaker B: Andrew Jarrett, who's been following questions for the last couple weeks, he says, I've heard Josh mention the phenomenon where teams like Boston University stockpile 40 players. How are those teams able to do that if the NCAA limits the roster? And I believe it's 26. He wrote 28, but I believe it was 26 players.
[00:16:19] Speaker A: Yeah, it's 26.
[00:16:20] Speaker B: Yeah. With 20 allowed dress for a game.
[00:16:23] Speaker A: Well, what you're committed to and what you bring on campus are two different things. So I think, you know, in some situations, people are over committing and then, you know, just kind of leaving kids out to dry. And, you know, ethically we, you know, have kind of took a stance that we're not going to be a program that does that. I just have a hard time looking at family in the eye, promising them a scholarship or promising them a spot in the team and then pulling it, you know, months before they get here.
[00:16:51] Speaker B: That's also 26 is sort of an agreement, if you could explain that to the listeners.
[00:16:56] Speaker A: Yeah, so 26 is for the schools that opt into, you know, the house settlement, which union is not. We're not a school that has done that.
So they're allowed to have 26 full scholarships, and we're allowed to have our 18, which we're phasing in to work up to, which we're almost at.
So they cap it at that size. For that reason, we're technically allowed to have more than 26.
[00:17:21] Speaker B: Will you ever go? I think you have a 27 right now.
[00:17:25] Speaker A: I think my first year we were at 33. That's something I definitely don't ever want to do again.
But 28 would probably be the highest we'd be at.
[00:17:35] Speaker B: He also asked. Coaches Mike Zell and John Ronan come across as having a nice combination of knowledge, intensity, humor and compassion, making them the effective coaches that they are. Good job by Josh to hire, develop and retain them.
One cannot help but wonder, though, if evil forces, I guess, meaning opposing teams, might someday try to poach them, does Josh keep his head on a little bit of a swivel, preparing for the possibility of needing a replacement if the bad thing happens or does he prefer to wait for the devastating event to occur, whatever that means?
[00:18:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm super lucky to have the two assistants that we have. You know, John and Mike are both outstanding people and, you know, really treat the players well.
I have no doubt that at some point they're going to be, you know, try to be poached or offered, you know, a head coaching position. So we, you know, keep a small list of people that we would target if that does happen.
But they are different based on if we lost Mike or if we lost John just because, you know, we would look for a different type of person.
[00:18:37] Speaker B: Well, of course, the ECA hockey we know of will have two openings in the off season with Brown and Yale.
Obviously, Joe Howell, an interim coach at Yale, is doing a good job down there, so we don't want to speculate something's going to happen there. Obviously, with Brendan Whittett's situation with the family, emergency leave and when he returns from that, he'll be an Associated athletic director. So they're going to be looking for a new head coach as well. So who knows, maybe some other teams in this conference will be looking for a new coach. So we'll see what happens there. Jim Calona asks, is coach changing any practice preparation for these two big weeks of ECAC play that will likely make or break their chances for home ice advantage for the ECAC hockey tournament?
[00:19:19] Speaker A: We've been trying to practice with a lot of intensity this week, but limiting it, you know, 45 minutes. So try to be a little bit shorter because we know that both games are going to be extremely difficult. And then just, you know, I've really been focused in on our details.
[00:19:33] Speaker B: Of course they have that 4 o' clock game after the 7. I guess the nice thing is you don't, you don't have to travel because it's your one set location there with St. Lawrence and Clarkson just a couple miles down the road from separating each other, which is. I always, I always enjoyed that being up there, you know, not having to get in the car after a game Friday night and drive to the hotel for the next visit.
[00:19:56] Speaker A: Yeah, our travel in league is extremely difficult.
Some of those trips where you have three hours in between games, you're getting done at 10 and, you know, you're not getting into spot till one or two based on, you know, if you're going through New York City too, it can be even worse. So, yeah, it is nice and it is a little bit easier of travel for us this weekend.
[00:20:15] Speaker B: As much as I Didn't like going up through the north country. I did. I finally found an easy way to get up there, was going up the throughway to the Utica and take routes 8 and 12, basically up into Canton once you make contact with US Route 11. So because going through Lake Placid was never easy, especially when it was this kind of weather out there, snow on the ground, you have to deal with that. But I think the worst trip you've mentioned, New York, you know, going between Quinnipiac and Princeton and of course before that, yellow and Princeton, just going through New York City and trying to cross the Georgia Washington Bridge is never fun.
[00:20:51] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it's hard. It's hard on the guys. And, you know, it's always frustrating when you have Quinnipiac and Yale so close that they're not travel partners.
[00:21:00] Speaker B: Yeah, well, Professor Brian Cohen is really curious about the thought process behind some of the line changes. Was it based on feel and practice or were there certain skills he was trying to balance?
[00:21:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it goes into, you know, how guys are playing and, you know, just felt like maybe we were a little stagnant, so wanted to give some different, different guys some different looks. You know, it's kind of always, always evolving situation where we're trying to find what's best and really get the guys going.
[00:21:28] Speaker B: Our final question is from Greg Simisek from Plymouth, Minnesota. He's asking, how do you determine where to begin and identify players to recruit? Do you have people out in the field that tip you off on players with all the places they are at, such as the USHL and North American Hockey League, US high schools, and now throw in all the Canadian major junior leagues. You have to pare it down somehow.
[00:21:50] Speaker A: Yeah, it really has become an agent driven recruiting world where they, they have the players and you gotta, you gotta reach out to them and kind of see who's interested in us. And then, you know, at the same point we gotta, we gotta be knocking down doors and trying to find players and looking in different spots. So, you know, for us, you know, obviously our connections in the USHL have always been strong and that's a league that we'll continue to look at.
You know, the North American League is the league I coached in. So, you know, we have connections there. And then all of us in junior hockey or in college hockey are trying to learn the major junior landscape and how those players translate. So it's a little bit of trusting on your contacts and then just working the phones between coaches and agents.
[00:22:39] Speaker B: I know back when Rick Bennett Was coach.
It seemed like he was recruiting out of the junior A leagues in Canada. But it seemed like more and more we're seeing players from the ushl, the North American Hockey League. And there's been rumors that the USHL may align itself with the major Canadian junior leagues and maybe give them a fourth league.
Why have those like the USHL and North America Hockey League? And I go back to the day when North American Hockey League was actually an actual minorly pro league back in the 19, but obviously different, different era. But why those leagues have become more attractive to college recruiters?
[00:23:17] Speaker A: Well, I think just where they're located and then just, you know, players that have gone through those leagues having success, you know, I think the biggest thing is when you, when you get a player from a certain spot and you know, you, you build that relationship with the coach and then the coach calls you back and tells you as another guy that's, you know, he's different, but he has, you know, these qualities. You learn who you can trust and who you know, who are the people that you know, you still listen, but you're not maybe, you know, watching as close.
[00:23:46] Speaker B: Well, thanks for the questions, everyone. And if you have a question for Josh, you can email them to us. Shot that's S C-O-T
[email protected] or you can post them on Facebook on my personal page and the Parting shots podcast page. You can also send them via bluesky X and threads at Slap Shots, the Daily Gazette EC acocky Face off selections are back for another season. I'll post my picks usually on Wednesdays and then you can send your picks to me. I'll post those picks before the first game, usually on Fridays. To play. Send your picks to shotdailygazette.com of course the Sunday Super Bowl, Sunday Seahawks and Patriots and Super Bowl 60. Who do you got?
[00:24:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm going to go with the Seahawks and the pain of letting Sam to Arnold goal is going to keep keep on us.
[00:24:28] Speaker B: You're not the only team. Jets let them go too. And now look, they got to be wondering what that happened so. Well, Josh, good luck this weekend and we'll talk after the games.
[00:24:36] Speaker A: Sounds great.
[00:24:37] Speaker B: All right, that's Josh Algae. Coming up on Thursday's podcast where preview the Union men's and women's hockey weekends. On the men's side, I'll talk with forwards Parker Lindauer and Brendan Burr and defenseman Tyler Dunbar. The Union women are also on the road with games at Colgate on Friday and at Cornell on Saturday. I'll speak with head coach Tony Macy, defenseman Stephanie Bourque and forward Matty Leaney. Bourque and Leaney are tied with Elise Nichols for the all time points score leader in Union women's hockey history. That's Division one. I'll speak to them about that. That's a Bork and Leaney, I'll get you ready for Sunday Super Bowl 60 between the Patriots and Seahawks. I'll speak with Dan Ball, a former sports talk show host at 1045 team who's now an executive producer at Boston sports talk station WEEI about the Patriots, and we'll give his thoughts on the team as well and also have a sound from Tuesday's NBC Sports conference call with announcers Mike Tirico and Chris Collinsworth. And the Gazette News Group staff will make their picks for the game. I hope you tune in.
The views expressed on the Parting Shots podcast are not necessarily those of the Gazette News Group. The Parting Shots podcast is a production of the Gazette News Group. I'm Ken Schott. Thanks for listening and I'll catch you next time from the Parting Shots podcast studio in Schenectady, New York. Good day, good hockey.
