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The Gazette News Group presents the Parting Shots Podcast. Now here's your host, Gazette News Group Sports Editor Ken Shot. Thank you Scott Gezy, and welcome to the Parting Shots Podcast. Available wherever you get your podcast. Subscribe today. Thanks for joining me from the Parting Podcast Studio in Schenectady, New York. We have another great show for you. We're going to talk a lot of hockey on this edition of the podcast. The women's icebreaker tournament will be at MT bank center this weekend. Games Friday and Saturday. The semifinal matchups on Friday have a defending national champion and top ranked Wisconsin facing Vermont at 12:07pm and the second game will be Union taking on St. Anselm at 3:37pm so we'll be talking a lot about that. We're going to talk with sister matchup and possibly in this game, Courtney hall, assistant coach for Union, her sister Cassie hall, junior forward for Wisconsin. There'll be a meeting maybe in the championship game on Saturday. We'll see what happens there. I spoke with them on Monday and an article in Wednesday's Daily Gazette and It's
[email protected] you hear the full conversation I had with the Halls on Monday. Here on the podcast we'll talk with the Union women's team head coach Tony Macy and defenseman Stephanie Bourque and Quinn Dunkle and forward Mallory Rocker. I'll talk to get their thoughts about this weekend, what this tournament means to the team and the college. It's one of the I'll mention this when I have the intro, but this would have never happened a few years ago with the Union women's program. So we'll talk a little bit more about that. The men will be playing so we six hockey games in two days at MNT Bank Center. That's going to be crazy.
I'll probably be sleeping in this press box overnight Friday to announce. Just kidding. So the men coming off Pair of Winds and Merseyhurst on the road in Erie, Pennsylvania last weekend, they'll be taking on Niagara this weekend for a pair of games. 8 o' clock starts so a little later than normal and especially the Saturday games when you're used to having those 4 o' clock afternoon games of course. Now this year 5 o' clock afternoon games at M and T Bank Center. We'll talk with four of the Union players, Lucas Buziol, Connor Smith, Brendan Miles and Brandon Burr about this weekend's games and Talk given. Also their thoughts from what happened last weekend at Merseyhurst Union. Like I said, won both games and handily Monday, Friday night, 5:2, not so handily Saturday, down 3 nothing, but came back to win 5:3. So we'll get those players thoughts on that.
But first, I'm not in a good mood, and that's not because I've had a cold. I'm trying to siphon my coughing.
If you're listening to my Wednesday podcast with Josh Algae, I managed to stifle all but one cough.
Try to stifle one now. It's not one, so just give me a second.
There we go. Got that out of my system. I turned the mic down so you didn't hear me cough.
Yeah, my Philadelphia teams have disappointed me greatly, especially the Phillies.
They deserve to get beat by the Dodgers. I mean, it's. There's been a thing all year with their offense been so damn inconsistent. I mean, there'd be games where they put up great numbers and then they can't do crap for games. And it came back to bite them in the division series against the Los Angeles Dodgers. Granted, the Dodgers, you know, pitch well. I mean, game one, Phillies are up three nothing. That game didn't score again, and their bullpen failed them in a 53 loss. In game two, they're down four nothing. I mean, the offense was feeble as hell, and then they managed to come back at three, but they couldn't get that tying run. A lot of controversy about whether Rob Thompson should have had Bryson Stott try to bunt Nick Castellano as a slow runner over from second to third. It backfired, and who knows what happens? But of course, then they go out to LA and mash the ball all over the place. And in game four, one one can't get things going offensively. And then Dodgers had a baseload with two outs at the bottom of the 11th inning, and the ground ball hits you right back to the mound to Orion Kirkering took his eye off the ball and the ball hit his off the heel of his glove and he panicked. He had plenty of time to get the runner at first base. Instead, he threw home. And you could see catcher J.T. ryobuto pointing the first throw to first, and J.T. was not really in position to stand on the plate and get that force out to end the inning.
So Phillies are done, and it appears that Rob Thompson will be back next year managing the team. I know some fans are not happy about that, but who are you going to get? Who. Who do you want managing the Phillies? This is the team that's, I'm afraid the window's closing. The window as closed on this team. It's just, yeah, they, they were, they, you know, in 2022 got to the World Series because nobody expected them to. And then last few years, they, they choked in the National League Championship Series against Arizona in 2023 and choked against the Mets in the Division Series last year. And I'll have to say it again, they choked again this year. I mean, it's nice. They won the East Division and got a first round bye. But what does that, what did that get them? Nothing. Nothing, nothing, nothing. And I think they have to look over this lineup and figure out a way to get some hitters who are contact hitters. I mean, I'm sick and tired of the analytics playing a part in this. It's, it's ruining the baseball. It has ruined baseball. It's either swing for the fences or strikeout and strikeouts are acceptable. And it can't be acceptable. It just cannot be acceptable whatsoever. Yes, I just banged my fist. So meanwhile, the team plays across the street from the Phillies. The Philadelphia Eagles stink.
Four and two, first place, but they stink. They were, they've been fortunate to win some win their four games, especially the game against the Rams where they blocked two field goals, including one at the end of the game. That the Rams had gotten that through, they would have won that game. And then two weeks ago they blew a lead against Denver at home and they, you know, didn't show up against the Giants, a Giants team that could be on the rise with Jackson Dart as their quarterback.
But the Eagles got lucky this past Sunday, Week 6, where the Giants ended up being the only NFC east team to win.
Cowboys lost to Carolina in Charlotte and then the Commanders lost on a late last second field goal to the Bears on Monday night. So Eagles are fortunate to be in first place at 4:2. But they got some problems, they had some problems on offense and bark, I'm not blaming Saquon Barker. I think the offensive line does not play well. I think maybe it's a sign of age and maybe they're beat up now at this point.
Jalen Hurst has been okay and, but has missed a couple of, you know, easy walking touchdowns, including one in the Denver game, which would have sealed that game to, to A.J. brown and, but I, I, if you look at the replay, I think A.J. brown slowed down and didn't realize the ball was coming to him until it was too late. But the Eagles have some issues but fortunately right now they're like I said, 4 and 2. But they go to Minnesota on Sunday and they will see old friend Carson Wentz, former Eagle quarterback who had he not torn up his ACL in 2017, probably would have been the MVP of the league. And instead Nick Foles ends up leading the Eagles to the super bowl and Foles ended up helping the Eagles get to the playoffs the following year because Wentz, I think Carson Wentz came back too soon for his torn acl, ended up, I think hurting his back.
He had a great 2019, led the Eagles to the East Division title and got to the wild card round. But he got hurt in the game against Seattle in the wild card round and then 2020 in the COVID year in the opening game against against Washington and he was playing well and then he had a bad interception late in the first half and to me that turned his season around. The Eagles season around Wences wasn't the same, wasn't playing well and then ended up calling Doug Peterson the head coach at the time his job. Of course he was a drafted Jalen hurst in the second round of the 2020 draft and I think that Wentz was not happy about that. But once has bounced around since then. Indianapolis, Kansas City and now he's with the Vikings. I felt bad for him in Super Bowl 59 when the game was out of hand. I mean, why wasn't he given a chance to get into the game and Patrick Mahomes didn't want to come out. I guess so. But the Eagles got to get their act together. The Phillies got to figure out what they want and it's going to be an interesting off season with the Phillies. And of course they got the Flyers going on and hopefully they'll do well. I'm not, I don't know what the chances are. I mean, I think they're still a young team and they got to figure it out. Rick Tock it We'll see what he does as a head coach.
I publicly said before, I just, I don't know about if he's a good coach. I mean he was a great flyer back in the day, but he's bounced around in the coaching ranks so we'll see what happens. Maybe being back in Philadelphia will help him help the team and we'll see what happens with that. And the Sixers, I'm not expecting too much from them, but that's my Philly rants here on the Parting Shots podcast. Coming up, we're going to talk about with the hall sisters, Courtney And Cassie as they get set to play with their teams. Actually, obviously, Courtney's the assistant coach with the Union, so she won't be playing, but Cassie will.
We'll talk with the halls about their life together in hockey.
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[00:11:14] Speaker B: Welcome back to the podcast. As we mentioned, in the open, the icebreaker women's icebreaker tournament will be here this weekend at M and T Bank Center. Wisconsin and Vermont in game one on Friday and game two be Union and St. Aslam. The championship game will be 337 on Saturday. The third place game, 1207 on Saturday, part of a triple header of hockey this weekend.
Maybe try to, you know, find a room at the. In the press box, sleep over. I don't know.
That would be fun to sleep over at a hockey rink. I don't know about that, but. Well, as we mentioned, we have the hall sisters. Courtney, assistant coach for Union women's team, and Cassie, a junior forward for Wisconsin, had a chance to speak with them about growing up together, playing hockey, and.
And they know the corpies Carter and Cameron and Courtney talked about that, said that Courtney and Carter are best friends. So let's hear from the hall sisters here on the Parting Shots podcast.
Well, guys, I mean, how much are you looking forward to this meeting on this weekend? Coming up, we'll start with Courtney.
[00:12:29] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It's gonna be super exciting. We. We have a lot of family coming into town, so it's. It's gonna be really cool. Definitely a special moment.
Potentially getting the chance to play against my sister is one of the coolest things ever. So.
[00:12:43] Speaker B: What about you, Cassie?
[00:12:46] Speaker A: Yeah, it's definitely. I mean, we both have to win our games, right?
But we almost had a chance to play, like, against each other, like, both players.
But I think her being a coach and me being a player is something like.
It's different and also special in that way, too.
[00:13:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, Courtney, just to Add off that.
[00:13:11] Speaker A: Yeah, we. We didn't think we would be able to play each other in college because I'm four years older than her. But Covid came. I got the chance to have a fifth year, and if I would have stayed at St. Cloud, it definitely would have happened. But I decided to go play at Robert Morris and get my master's degree. So we didn't get to play each other as players. But like she said, like, being a coach now, it's a completely different angle. And with her playing, I mean, I'm always trying to keep up with her games. And I've got the Badger women's hockey notifications on my phone. So during our games, I'm kind of looking over to see if she's done any damage in the game. So. But, yeah, it's going to be really special.
[00:13:56] Speaker B: I mean, you'll be able, Courtney, to. At least to watch a little bit of the first game on Friday, right?
[00:14:02] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I'll be somewhere. Somewhere in the arena watching, so.
[00:14:06] Speaker B: Well, that's got to be weird, because in one sense, you want to cheer for her, see her do well, but at the same time, you have to, you know, pre scout in case you face Wisconsin on Saturday.
[00:14:15] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, of course. So I've watched Wisconsin. Wisconsin would play quite a few times. So I think. I think our Prescott's gonna be as good as it gets.
[00:14:26] Speaker B: What was it like growing up there in South Lyon, Michigan? You know, we'll talk about the corpies in a second, but Cassie Reeve, what was it like? You know, did you guys play together at youth hockey at all, or was it just playing in the basement? Playing on the. On an ice surface somewhere? Other than, like, youth hockey or anything like that.
[00:14:48] Speaker A: We never played with each other, but we were playing for the same organization because she was four years older than me.
[00:14:55] Speaker B: And that's. That's those. That's Little Caesars, right?
[00:14:58] Speaker A: Yeah. So we never played on a Little Caesars team together, but it was always in the basement or the driveway or out in the backyard. When the lake would freeze over, we would go play out there. So we were always doing something together. No matter what it was learned from her, I was doing everything she was doing. I just wanted to be just like her and my brother.
[00:15:18] Speaker B: Yeah. It mentions on the Wisconsin website on your bio that you looked up to Courtney.
Why is that? Just because, you know, being the older sister.
[00:15:29] Speaker A: Definitely that plays a role being my older sister. But she was doing everything I wanted to do, like playing for Caesars, and then I wanted to go Play for Caesar. She would go to national camps, so I wanted to go to national camp. So it was just whatever she was doing, I was like, I'm gonna do that, but better.
[00:15:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
Shots fired.
[00:15:51] Speaker A: I'm kidding.
[00:15:53] Speaker B: Courtney, for you to hear that, what does that mean to you?
[00:15:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, it's great. And being the older sister, I have a twin brother as well, so Cameron. So it's us three. And, I mean, we were super competitive, just me and my brother, and. And when Cassie came along, she was kind of like a wrecking ball in that way where she. She wanted to do everything we were doing. I. I think she had skates on her feet by two years old.
[00:16:19] Speaker B: What. What. What's your brother's name?
[00:16:21] Speaker A: Cameron.
[00:16:21] Speaker B: Cameron.
[00:16:23] Speaker A: This weekend? Yeah, with his fiance, so it's gonna be really cool.
[00:16:26] Speaker B: So were there any kind of fights that.
How competitive did things get? Corny.
[00:16:35] Speaker A: Oh, it.
A little more than I might want to admit.
[00:16:39] Speaker B: Clubs.
[00:16:40] Speaker A: I do remember a lot of scrums happening out on the backyard rink. My dad would always shovel off a big spot on the lake, and he would come out with the hot water hose and just like, as if a Zamboni went over it. And we'd go out there when we had no school with snow days, and, I mean, we would get into multiple fights and. Oh, that was a goal. That wasn't a goal. There'd be checking into snow banks, and it was. It was a very competitive family growing up.
[00:17:09] Speaker B: So Cassie, to wear the gloves, dropped a few times.
[00:17:15] Speaker A: Most likely.
Half the time they would throw me in goal. Oh, like goalie. We'd throw her in goal and put on the goalie stuff and just rip pucks.
[00:17:25] Speaker B: So you hated. You hated it so much, you became an outstanding scoring machine there for Wisconsin there. Cassie.
[00:17:32] Speaker A: I couldn't stand getting scored on, so thank God it didn't stick.
[00:17:39] Speaker B: What was it like growing up together?
[00:17:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, like, I. I'll take a second and talk about our parents here. So my dad was a minor pro and college hockey referee, so he was refing right out of high school into juniors and a minor pro in college, and. And he met my mom. And my mom's a physical medicine rehab doctor, but she played every sport but hockey.
But my dad definitely got us into hockey, and ever since then, they've been super supportive of us. And I mean, anything we've done would not be possible without them and their sacrifice.
But just growing up playing hockey together, I mean, hockey brought us all together as a family, and I think everyone was kind of sad if we couldn't make every single game of each other, so. But yeah.
[00:18:29] Speaker B: Cassie, for you. What was that like?
[00:18:33] Speaker A: I mean, it's something special, like, with our parents. Like, they make every game they can. Like, last year, they're at almost every game of mine. And I know they went to visit Courtney, too, but. And then this year, they try to make it to every game, so it's just something I'm really thankful for, to have them and the support system that they give me.
And then just my sister, she's always watching and she cares. Like, even when she's playing, she'll have the stats pulled up. She'll text me after the games or in between periods, maybe. So it's just really special to have that kind of support.
[00:19:06] Speaker B: Does she give you advice at all?
Does Courtney give you advice at all?
[00:19:10] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, she definitely does.
[00:19:13] Speaker B: Do you listen to it?
[00:19:15] Speaker A: For the most part, I tried to.
[00:19:19] Speaker B: What kind of advice, Cordy, do you give? Mean?
[00:19:23] Speaker A: Well, it's. It's tough during the season just because I'm not really able to watch all of her games. But I think it's. It's especially fun when, once our season's over, I get to normally go and watch Wisconsin play. And I. I just think I see the game a different way than. Than a lot of players, so I think just, like, little tweaks here and there. It's just. I think for her, it's probably good to have another voice, you know, in the back of her head rather than some of the. Some of the parents and maybe teammates and anything. But as much as I want my team and everybody to succeed, I mean, it's. It's the greatest honor to have her as my sister, So I want her to succeed as well, so.
[00:20:01] Speaker B: Well, she obviously succeeded last season with winning the NCAA Tournament championship in dramatic fashion.
Courtney Cassidy talk about that game and the way that unfolded, especially they're late with the penalty shot and winning in an overtime. I mean, how thrilling was that? You're on the verge of losing to Ohio State, and then all of a sudden, things changed.
[00:20:23] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. It was insane. Like, those last five minutes of the game, everyone's kind of like, oh, man. Like, what are we going to do? Like, we gotta somehow find a way. And then the clock is still ticking down, and Leila noticed the. Someone covered it in the crease, and she, like, rushes to the bench. She's like.
Like, you gotta review it. So it was kind of thanks to her. She saw that, and then we trusted our video guy to review that. And look at it. And we called the challenge, and then we. We all knew Sims was taking that shot just because she, like, that's her thing.
So she went and then scored. Obviously, it was, like, insane. Half the team wasn't watching.
But when we went into the locker room for overtime, like, we knew we were winning that game. Like, we had all the momentum. So it was definitely special to be a part of it and be able to, like, support my team and have my family there, and my sister and my brother was there. So that was super special. Just winning. That is. It's incredible.
[00:21:30] Speaker B: According to CCassie, win the national title. What was going through your mind? Were you there that day?
[00:21:36] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I was there. I wouldn't have missed it for the world. And, I mean, I probably jumped up 10ft out of my chair when they scored, but, I mean, it's just a testament to all the work that she's put in, her team's put in, and my parents and I getting there and making sure we're there to support her. So it was amazing.
It's just the best feeling ever to have your family and your sister succeed and. And all of us are so happy for so. And continued success to come, for sure.
[00:22:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, let me ask you, obviously, the corpies on the men's side, also from South Lyon, how much did you guys interact with them?
[00:22:17] Speaker A: Yeah. So Carter, I've known him since I was 2 years old.
Our moms were in the Moms for Moms group down in South Lyon, so me and him were playing hockey and mini sticks growing up. And, I mean, he's. He's still one of my best friends to this day. And it's. It's pretty crazy that we ended up here together.
It's. It's just insane. So it's. It's nice to see him. And I actually played with him growing up as well, a couple. Couple years.
And there's a funny story to go along with that. So boys hockey, we were playing, obviously, and springtime, you do the tryouts, you make the spring team, but then you have another tryout for the fall team.
So I made the spring team, and then his dad cut me. His dad was the coach, and he cut me for the fall.
My mom was so mad at him. And Tracy, their mom, was also mad and eventually took me back, and I was on the team in the fall. But that's just a funny little story with us and the corpies. But, yeah, so we kind of grew up together, and being here now is super cool, especially with Cameron Coming here, too.
So it's. It's been good so far. Yeah.
[00:23:30] Speaker B: Cassie.
[00:23:32] Speaker A: I wasn't like. I don't know. I'm not as close with. With them as Courtney is, but, like, when our families would hang out, it's just.
I don't know, it's cool to see that they ended up there, and Courtney can kind of have people there she knows that we're really close with, so.
And then. Yeah.
[00:23:54] Speaker B: Courtney, let me ask you, what got you. What led you to coaching?
[00:23:59] Speaker A: Yeah. So, I mean, when.
When we made the switch, I started playing at Honey baked for my 14U girls season. So my first two years of playing girls hockey, I was at Honey Baked, and then we switched to Caesars, where I was on the 16U team and Cassie was going to be on that 12U team. So I.
I was like, okay, I think I want to help out in any way I can. And we were at a lot of the same tournaments anyway, so I kind of just started being on the bench and being like a student coach with them since 12U. And at that time, it was. Mano Ram was the. Was the head coach, first female to play in the NHL. I'm sure you're aware of her.
So ever since then, like, it just kind of took off and I was like, wow, like, this could be a really cool gig, like, once I'm done playing. And, yeah, she was a huge mentor for me. Just playing the right way, being honest, and kind of just letting everything fall into place. And.
Yeah, so that's kind of what got me into it. And I knew by the time I was 14 or 15, I was going to be playing college hockey. And then after that, I was like, I can't leave the game. So I'm really excited to continue this job, which doesn't even feel like a job to me. Honestly.
[00:25:12] Speaker B: Cassie, for you, I know you have at least two more seasons left there, Wisconsin. What's your future look like?
Obviously, with the PWHL out there now there's that opportunity. Would you like to maybe one day follow your sister in the. To the coaching ranks?
[00:25:28] Speaker A: I think, yeah, for sure. Like, being a coach would be like, what I would want to do after hockey is over, because it can't go on forever. But I think after college, I want to try and play in the PWHL and then potentially the national team, and then, you know, it'll all be over. So I think I'd want to stay in the game as well. So definitely coaching is something I'm. I'm interested in.
[00:25:52] Speaker B: What's it like playing for Mark Johnson?
[00:25:55] Speaker A: Oh, he's. He's a great coach. Like, he's kind of a man of few words, but sometimes that's all you need. Especially with a team that we have, like, a lot of the girls, we can just go out there and play. We don't really need, like, much or. And everyone can have chemistry. Anyone can play with anyone. So he's kind of there to help us. And to have him on the bench is super special, especially with his background and his hockey career and, like, his history. It's just special to have him behind the bench.
[00:26:26] Speaker B: Does he ever.
Yeah. Does he ever bring up, you know, the fact he was on that miracle, nice team and he played the NHL for many years and his dad was a legendary coach there?
[00:26:37] Speaker A: No, he never brings that up. He's very.
Keeps it quiet. He's very humble, so you don't hear about that much.
[00:26:45] Speaker B: All right. What would it like to be on on Saturday playing each other for the icebreaker championship? Start with you, Courtney.
[00:26:56] Speaker A: I mean, like Cassie said before, both of us have to win first, so I'll take it one day at a time. But, I mean, obviously the goal, of course, is to play Wisconsin in the championship. And I just think the atmosphere with our parents being there and our family, and I think it's just going to be a really special moment. And I don't know if Mary confirmed or not, but I think this is the first time in NCAA history where a sister coach could play against a sister player. So something that's never happened before. And I know that my girls are super excited for me and the chance to have something special like this and.
And just honestly, just being there together in the same ice surface, same rink on a Saturday, which has never happened.
So I don't. I don't have to keep checking the stats on that one.
[00:27:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:46] Speaker A: So, Cassie, overall special and hope, hopefully we can get a photo before the game and something that I'll cherish for. For a long time, especially with the win.
Oh, please.
[00:28:03] Speaker B: Oh, boy. I smell a little feud here. But, yeah, Cassie, for you, what is. What. What would it mean to. For that to happen on Saturday in the championship game?
[00:28:13] Speaker A: It'll definitely be something special like, like she said, it's never happened before. So to be able to.
To accomplish this would be, like, really cool.
And, yeah, maybe get a picture, but that'll win.
[00:28:29] Speaker B: Well, guys, appreciate a few minutes. We'll see you this weekend. And looking forward to covering those games.
[00:28:35] Speaker A: Ken, there's actually one more thing I wanted to mention.
So Tina, the assistant coach with me, she actually coached both of us at Little Caesars. She was my coach at 19U and Cassie's at what, 12U, was it? Maybe 12 you. And then she was also the strength coach for Little Caesars as well. So that's another connection there. So it's, it's just, it's crazy. All the, all the stars are aligning here. So this weekend's gonna be super cool.
[00:29:04] Speaker B: Let me ask you one more thing, Courtney. I know it's your second year with, with the program, but what does it mean for this tournament to be hosted by Union in a new facility? Because, yeah, let's face facts. This Union women's program has struggled for years, could never, you know, get into the tournament in the old format with eight teams. But with what Tony did last year, getting them to the quarterfinals and then having this announcement over the summer that this tournament is going to be here, what does it mean to the program?
What does it signify, maybe nationally for this program?
[00:29:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I think it's definitely something that can put us on the map here. And I think that the brand new arena is just another thing that's going in the right direction for Union College hockey, men's and women's. And just honestly, getting the number one team in the nation into our building is something super special and just the chance to play against that kind of caliber of team, team and obviously the special connection we have here. But again, it's just like I said before, it's part of the process to kind of rebuilding a team. And I think everybody's just super excited with everything that's been going on and I think this just adds to it.
[00:30:22] Speaker B: We'll talk more about the women's icebreaker with Union women's head coach Tony Macy and players Stephanie Bourque, Mallory Morocco and Quinn Dunkel. You're listening to the Parting Shots podcast.
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Welcome back to the Podcast as we continue our preview of the women's icebreaker tournament coming up on this weekend at MT Bank Center. Of course game semifinals on Friday and the championship and third place game on Saturday.
Union will be taking on St. Anselm on Friday at 3:37pm and the winner of that game will face the winner of Vermont and Wisconsin in the championship game on Saturday at 3:37pm of course a lot of people are hoping it's a Union Wisconsin matchup to see for that championship. To see how Union plays against the top ranked team and defending national champion in the women's hockey.
We had a chance to talk with the Union women's team on Thursday.
First up is head coach Tony Macy. The Dutch, the Garner Charger almost said Dutch women there. The Garner Chargers coming off a tie and a loss one one tie on Friday night. They won the shootout this time as opposed to the previous weekend, but then dropped a 31 decision, giving up three third period goals after taking a 1 nothing lead on a Quinn Dunkle power play goal late in the second period. So Union suffering its first loss of the season. We'll see how they bounce back against St. Anselm on Friday. First up, as I said, Tony Macy, the head coach, here's what he had to say.
Tony, what does this weekend mean to you and the program to have this national tournament come here in the new arena?
[00:32:55] Speaker C: I think it's a great opportunity for our players.
The area here, Schenectady, as well as Union College.
You know, we get to bring in people from, and teams from all over the place.
You know, you got Wisconsin coming in as the defending national champ.
You got Vermont coming from Burlington and Saint A's coming from, you know, the, the new Hall League. So we get, we get a chance to place people from all different leagues and get to showcase our new arena here at the M and T Bank center and of show what they've done and helped build here.
[00:33:33] Speaker B: I mean, what does it say about this program? I mean I don't think four or five years ago this would have happened bringing a tournament like this to the, to the area because if the women's team was not that good for many years now it's on the rise here. So we, how, how important is it for this union to be hosting this tournament and maybe get you guys get some national recognition?
[00:33:58] Speaker C: Yeah, I think it's always good to get, get on tv, get some, some of those national games, have teams that are high profile that have been in those, those types of situations come in and play. We have many in our league. But this is also another opportunity outside of our league to help showcase what we're doing and hopefully what we're. We're trying to do here in the future.
Yeah, I mean, after dropping you from.
[00:34:22] Speaker B: First game of the season on Saturday, what can this kind of tournament represent as kind of a gut check for this team responding to adversity?
[00:34:29] Speaker C: Yeah. So we talked at the beginning of the week. This is a good opportunity for us. It helps us prepare for, you know, even our MVP game with rpi. It's kind of a different week. You got to get ready for a tournament type situation. So you got to prepare things differently. You know, beginning of the week, you got to take care of things so they're not distractions as you get through the week, especially with tickets and families and everybody coming into town. So just getting in that mindset and practicing that is good for, for us as well. And then, you know, getting into our ECAC play, you know, we get into the playoff time, that's what you have to do. So this is good practice for that. And it's always fun to try to play for a trophy during the middle of the year.
[00:35:08] Speaker B: How important is it to not overlook St. Anselm on Friday? Because obviously everybody's hoping for a Union of Wisconsin championship game on Saturday.
So how important is it to focus on the St. Ansell and not worry about Saturday?
[00:35:19] Speaker C: Yeah, that's all our focus has been on since Saturday after our game.
You know, we said it. It's like we got to take care of Friday first. We can't go any anywhere further than that because if you don't take care of Friday, you don't even get to Saturday to where you want to be. And we want to play for that championship game. So we've got to prepare that way. So that's what we've been doing this week is getting ready for st.
[00:35:43] Speaker B: I lost to New Hampshire. A little bit of a wake up call.
[00:35:48] Speaker C: I wouldn't say it was a wake up call. I think it just put us in perspective of, you know, making sure that when you have teams down and out that you got to finish games, you know, teams are going to keep pushing.
You know, we're not in, I think, the surprise phase anymore like we were last year. I think people are coming in now knowing, hey, these are going to be good games. And we just got to make sure that we're taking care of business once we do get leads, especially in our own building.
[00:36:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, anticipating a really good environment this weekend. What do you kind of talk about with the team to make sure the.
[00:36:21] Speaker C: Moment'S not getting too big and they're kind of ready for it? Yeah, I think it's just own what we've done so far, and then these are big steps for us. We got to make sure that we're upping our play. We're constantly trying to bring more, and we're gonna have to battle throughout the whole weekend.
We've got to play with pace like we've talked about, and. And defend well. If we don't defend well, it'll be long nights. But, you know, I think at the end of the day, as long as we're competing hard, that's. That's all that matters.
[00:36:51] Speaker B: I mentioned the Quinn that she scored her third goal of the year, but first with the goaltender, and I sort of laughed about that. But how good has she been for you so far?
[00:36:58] Speaker C: Oh, she's done a great job stepping in. I think that it's something that she worked for last year.
Kind of maybe in the back of her mind, knowing that we were losing some people that were playing some big minutes, and she had the ability to step in and do that.
So it's just been good. She put in the work over the summer and has done a great job for us so far.
[00:37:19] Speaker B: Coach, coming off that strong year last year, best start in program history. Now, you hope this tournament with the.
[00:37:24] Speaker C: Number one team in the country, what.
[00:37:26] Speaker B: Does it say about the state of.
[00:37:27] Speaker C: Union women's hockey right now?
Yeah, I think it's, again, great opportunity for us. We've got.
We actually have Wisconsin on the schedule here the next three years, so that's something that we want to make sure we. We continually strive for.
You know, we've got, again, teams in the ECAC there in the frozen Four every year in the national tournament. So we get to see teams like this all the time. So it's not like it's a huge surprise with them coming in, especially having Clarkson had won the two in 17 and 18 and then one in 14. So, you know, there's teams in our league that have done the same. So it's a matter of, you know, just being ready for it and not looking past one Friday's game, but then also making sure you're ready, you know, to really ramp things up on Saturday.
[00:38:17] Speaker B: Now let's hear from three of the Union women's players. Stephanie Work, Quinn Dunkle, and Mallory Morocco.
Guys, this is probably the biggest weekend in Union College women's history. Hockey history. With the icebreaker coming, Wisconsin the national champion, number one ranked team in the country. How excited for you are you for this weekend, Persephone?
[00:38:38] Speaker A: I mean we're definitely excited. We definitely want to ourselves and obviously we have to win Friday, so we're just going to take it like one game at a time. We've been working hard this week and we're going to continue working hard and to get prepared as much as we can for this weekend.
[00:38:51] Speaker B: Gwen?
[00:38:52] Speaker A: Yeah, like Steph said, like we don't really get like an opportunity to play in a tournament either. So that's also super huge. And the fact that we're hosting is also super exciting.
[00:39:02] Speaker B: Mallory?
[00:39:03] Speaker A: Yeah, what they said, I think it'll be a great experience for not only the community, but us is our team as a whole. And to play the number one team in the country will be super exciting to show them what we got.
[00:39:13] Speaker B: How important is it to not look ahead, look past St. Anselm with, you know, obviously Wisconsin is probably going to beat Vermont.
I don't know that. But how important is it to focus on the Friday game, not worry look ahead potential championship game against Wisconsin.
[00:39:30] Speaker A: I feel like every week we just know to go game by game Friday first, then happens there we'll take on Saturday. So I know if we do our systems, our game Friday, Saturday will come.
Yeah, I think playing St. Anselm will obviously give us some momentum going into hopefully the next day against Wisconsin or Vermont, whoever that may be. I know both teams have some really talented players, but we also have really talented players as well. No, I think they basically covered all the bases. It's just taking it game by game and not taking anyone from granted. I mean in the N.C.A.A. you never know, anything can happen. So it's just sticking to what we know and sticking to our systems and we should be okay.
[00:40:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean going looking at Friday in particular, what do you guys have to do on Friday in order to get to Saturday?
[00:40:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it's just sticking with our system. I think when our forwards forecheck really well, I think that's when we gain most of our momentum. So it's just kind of sticking with that, moving our feet, making sure that we're putting lots of pressure on them and taking away their time and space.
Yeah, I think picking up our intensity in practice and in the St. Anselm game will be really important going into the next day.
Yeah, I think when all the girls feet are moving like it just we can all feel it on the bench and on the ice that it's clicking for us. And if we do that, everything will come with it.
[00:40:43] Speaker B: Was Saturday's loss enhancement maybe a little bit of wake up. Wake up call for this team?
[00:40:47] Speaker A: Definitely. I think it's something that we. That we needed to know that, like, it's not just going to come by itself. Like we have to work hard for what we want and put that work in day in and day out.
Yeah, I think it was definitely a wake up call. I think just like going into this weekend, like, we know that we need to really step it up and bring it a lot more.
Yeah, I guess Saturday we definitely let that one slip away, I think. And I think we know it and the coaches know it. So I think we're holding ourselves to a higher standard. So now we know what to do and we know that we can't. We have to play a full 60 minute. We can't just show up in the third or show up in the first and then hope to get a win that way.
[00:41:23] Speaker B: Quinn, for you, your third goal of the season on Saturday, but you're first with a goaltender in the net.
What was that like?
[00:41:31] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely had to get that out of the way with a goalie in the net. So that was pretty huge. I was really excited, as you can probably see.
But yeah, hopefully I'll get some more. What's more, goalies in the net?
[00:41:45] Speaker C: We can just go down the line here.
[00:41:46] Speaker B: You know, coming off of a great season last year, best start in program history, and now you host this tournament with the number one team in the country coming to town. What does that say about the state of Union women's hockey as a whole?
[00:41:56] Speaker A: I think it says that we're making a lot of noise and we're on. We're on the uprise. We're moving in the direction that we do want to go in. I think there's definitely still a lot of work to be done, but we're definitely moving in the right direction and that's exciting to see.
Yeah, I just think that we're just here to prove ourselves and keep working hard and just. It's so motivating, I think.
Yeah. As Tony said, it's just another new thing for us to do.
[00:42:23] Speaker B: This is the new you, and we're.
[00:42:24] Speaker A: Just gonna keep getting better and better.
[00:42:27] Speaker B: We'll take a look at the weekend for the Union men coming up as they host Niagara for a pair of games at MNC Bank Center. You're listening to the the Parting Shots podcast.
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[00:43:06] Speaker C: Daily Gazette sportswriter Mike McAdam.
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Welcome back to the podcast. The Union men's hockey team's back in action this weekend at M and T Bank Center. They'll host Niagara for a pair of games Friday night and Saturday night, both games starting at 8:00'. Clock. That's because of the women's icebreaker tournament. The Garner Chargers coming off this very successful weekend in Erie, Pennsylvania. Their first trip ever to Mercers College Friday night was a 52 victory and a game they pretty much dominated. Game two on Saturday didn't start off too well for the Garner Chargers. They found themselves down two nothing to a team that had a lot, it seemed like had a lot more jump than what Union did. And early in the second it was three nothing. And you got to figure that, oh, it's Union. Looks like they're going to be in trouble. But they started to take control of that second period.
Brandon Burr scored a power play goal in the second to make it 31 and then Jacob Jeannette and Brandon Burr scored quickly in the third period to tie it. And then Connor Smith with an end to end rush, a great play scored to make it 4:3 and Burek ended up with an empty net goal to seal the deal. A 5:3 victory for the Garner Chargers. They were there at 2:01 right now in the early season. We of course talked to Josh Algae yesterday on the podcast. Got his thoughts on the game those both games and pretty much happy with what they did Friday even though the Saturday start didn't get so well and he was happy with how they came back.
They outshot Mercy Harrison in the two games, 92 to 36. It was 181 in the second period of Saturday's game.
So great f great comeback. It was the first time Union's coming back from a three goal deficit since December 1, 2013 against Penn State. Of course you remember that season. I think Union did all right that season. I think they won a national championship so. Well, you heard from Josh Haji yesterday. Excuse me, I'm trying to play a full coffee here.
For the most part I've been successful but I sound weird trying to stifle a cough. There you go. Much better there.
So as I mentioned, you heard from Josh Hauge on Wednesday.
Let's hear from the players. Let's start off first with Lucas Buziol, Connor Smith and Brendan Miles.
Guys, he scored 10 goals over the last weekend against Mercedes.
Is that the type of identity you guys want to have this season with the see, you know, scoring those, you know, being offensively attacking the other teams? Start with Lucas. Yeah, I mean, obviously scoring a lot, scoring a lot of goals.
Scoring a lot of goals is great. I mean we gotta keep him out of our nets.
[00:45:54] Speaker C: I mean, obviously offensive production was good.
[00:45:56] Speaker B: This week and we hope to keep it going like that going forward. Connor?
[00:45:59] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I think we have a really offensive team. It's good that our power play got one in there.
[00:46:04] Speaker B: So yeah, just going to keep it going. Brent?
Yeah, pretty much same with these guys. Said just gotta continue to, you know, build, break teams down and I think a good way to do that is obviously putting it in the back of their net. So we have a lot of talent on this team and I think we're capable of doing that every game. So speaking of putting it back in the net, you finally got your first. Let's go there on Friday night. What was it feeling like? Yeah, honestly, relief. I was kind of on my back there for a couple years now, so took took a little longer than I would have liked, but it was good to kind of finally get it done. So did they save you the puck? Yep, yep. Our equipment guy gave it to give it to me right away. So it was good. Yeah. Well, let's talk about, you know, it was two quick contrasting games there on the weekend. You guys dominated the Friday night game Saturday. You guys were slow getting out of the gate. Took you the second period to get going. The fact that you came back and you know, 500 goals in that game, first time has been done by a union team scoring, erasing a 3 nothing deficit since 201314 season. What does that say about this team? Yeah, I think it shows our resilience.
You know, we can be down and we can be put in different situations that we have been now and we find a way to kind of battle back through it and end up getting the win. So Lucas. Yeah, I mean, kind of like what Brendan said. I think the way he played in the second and third was hockey we know we can play. The first wasn't great, but you know.
[00:47:35] Speaker C: We turned it around really good in.
[00:47:36] Speaker B: The second and third. So, you know, obviously playing like that.
[00:47:38] Speaker C: For all 60s, what we want to.
[00:47:39] Speaker B: Do and we know we can do that going forward. Connor.
Yeah, I mean we just didn't panic and we kind of just moved back to what We've been working on in practice and work. So yeah, I mean for you guys after going through an army game where you had your chance, put one in the back of the net, how much confidence does a weekend like this where you put 10 up on the board give you guys going forward?
Yeah, I mean a lot of confidence. Like I said, we want to keep it going. We have a really offensive team and as our power play keeps putting more pucks in that it's just going to be better for us.
Yeah, I mean like you said obviously.
[00:48:12] Speaker C: The army game wasn't, was an ideal wise for like result wise but we.
[00:48:16] Speaker B: Knew when we play our way we can score goals and you saw us, we can put up 10 was, was big for us and kind of like what Connor said, you know, it's just a lot of confidence.
[00:48:23] Speaker C: Just keep rolling with it.
[00:48:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Like these guys have said, I think the confidence is key and I think we never, we never really feel uncomfortable I think as a team. So I think that's different this team as opposed to other teams that I've been on. I think we have a lot of trust in each other in that locker room and I think we feel like.
[00:48:45] Speaker C: As long as everybody's doing their job.
[00:48:46] Speaker B: We can, we can beat anybody. You guys have two games against Niagara this weekend, both late starts, 8 o' clock starts. Does that affect you guys with the later start than what you're used to?
I mean not really. I feel like we've all used to playing eight o' clock games.
[00:49:01] Speaker C: Probably all of us have played those type of start times back in Junior.
[00:49:04] Speaker B: Obviously, you know, it's late but it's not really going to affect us. I mean it's just another game. Big two games. We want to speak the weekend again.
[00:49:10] Speaker C: Like we did last weekend.
[00:49:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't think it matters if.
[00:49:13] Speaker C: It starts at 7, 8 or 10am.
[00:49:16] Speaker B: After not starting on time. The second merciers game.
[00:49:19] Speaker C: I think we're going to be ready to go.
[00:49:22] Speaker B: What is it about Niagara concerns you guys?
Nothing. We just got to focus on our own game, focus on ourselves and we should be fine.
Yeah, I mean we go in every.
[00:49:33] Speaker C: Week and just about ourselves, obviously we'll.
[00:49:35] Speaker B: Pre scale the other team but more.
[00:49:37] Speaker C: Importantly we worry about ourselves within our.
[00:49:38] Speaker B: Dress room and we'll be, we'll be just fine.
Yep.
[00:49:42] Speaker C: Like these guys said again, just control.
[00:49:44] Speaker B: What we can control, focus on us and the outcome will kind of show itself. So yeah, last couple of non conference games before you get into ECAC play. What are some of those Kinks you guys are looking to work out this weekend? Yeah, I think, I think just more so like the structure.
I think last week we focused on the offensive zone. Obviously that paid off.
So I think just focusing on different, different structures, whether it's offensive zone, defensive zone, neutral zone, I think just kind of clearing out the wrinkles there and then we'll, we'll be good to go here.
Yeah, I mean I think a lot what he said is true, but I think also we want to focus on our start. Our start wasn't great against Mercer since the second game and I think cleaning that up is going to be huge going into conference play where you know, every start matters, every game matters. Those are big points on the line. So just kind of clean that up going into the weekend. Just keep building on that going forward.
Yeah, I mean we're doing some line.
[00:50:39] Speaker C: Rush stuff in practice this week and.
[00:50:42] Speaker B: We really want to start, you know, attacking, taking pucks to the net being true first team.
[00:50:46] Speaker C: So hopefully we can score more in 10 this weekend.
[00:50:50] Speaker B: Now let's hear from Union senior forward Brandon Burr who had three goals over the weekend and was named ECAC hockey player of the week. He was a separate interview from the trio you just heard because he was just coming in to the arena from class. I kiddingly told him I think the interview with me is a lot more important than going to class. But I'm just of course, just joking there. So here's Brandon Burr.
Brandon, how big was this past week against Mercers putting up the goals? You guys did 10 goals in combined in those games. That was pretty big.
[00:51:23] Speaker C: Obviously we needed that after only getting one against Army. Like we're a team that prides ourselves I think on our offensive abilities. So being able to put up five both games is pretty nice for us.
[00:51:31] Speaker B: Is that the kind of games you guys want to play? Score attacking? You guys had over 40 shots in both games. Even the army game became close to 40 shots. So is the attacking mentality you needed every game to get that offense going?
[00:51:45] Speaker C: For sure. We definitely want to be attacking all the time. Obviously maybe the first period of the second game start a little bit better.
[00:51:51] Speaker B: But yeah, what does that show about this team that you guys were down 3 nothing on Saturday and then come back to score 5 financial goals the first time since 2013 with a team erased a 3 goal deficit?
[00:52:03] Speaker C: Yeah, I think it just shows that we don't have quit, you know, we're a resilient group and we won't give up till the final buzzer.
[00:52:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, how much does last weekend do for your confidence as an offense? Just seeing those pucks hit the back of the net after only getting one against army.
[00:52:15] Speaker C: It definitely is a boost. I mean especially Army. We had 40 something shots, only got one. It's a little demoralizing. So seeing them go in definitely is going to raise the confidence levels.
[00:52:23] Speaker B: You got the power play goal there on Saturday to get the first one of the season. Does that maybe open the floodgates for you guys in the power play?
[00:52:31] Speaker C: Yeah, we're hoping so. We need to get a couple more goals like we're generating chances, just not able to bury as much as we'd.
[00:52:36] Speaker B: Like to right now.
What you of course name BCAC Hockey Forward of the Week on Monday. What does that mean?
[00:52:42] Speaker C: Well, it's obviously an honor like UCAC.
[00:52:44] Speaker B: Is a very good conference and to.
[00:52:45] Speaker C: Be named the best four of the.
[00:52:46] Speaker B: Week is just a pretty nice honor.
As you mentioned, you're playing. I have two games this weekend, last non conference games before you play RPI in a couple weeks.
Eight o' clock start. Does that really bother you guys? A later start than normal? I don't think it's going to matter too much.
[00:53:00] Speaker C: I mean everyone has their own preparations so as long as it's not maybe like 8, 7am start, I think we'll be okay.
[00:53:06] Speaker B: What do you guys have to do this week in order to get off to a little bit of a faster start than you did Saturday night?
[00:53:11] Speaker C: Just mentally be there, ready to go. Can't take any game for granted. I think maybe we took our foot off the gas after our first game against Merciers because we, I played them pretty well.
[00:53:19] Speaker B: So that first period a little bit, I. I don't know the word, but we were a little bit too soft to start. So I'll be back to wrap up the podcast. And on the latest one, winners in the Daily Gazettes, you pick them and auto racing contest in just a moment. You're listening to the Parting Shots podcast.
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That wraps up another edition of the Parting Shots podcast. I want to thank Courtney Hall, Cassie Hall, Brandon Bearer, Lucas Buzial, Connor Smith, Brendan Miles, Stephanie Bourke, Mallory Morocco and Quinn Dunkle. And of course Tony Macy for being a part of the show.
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